Forum Anasayfası Forum Anasayfası > Çocuk Sağ. ve Hastalıkları Uzm. Dr. Kadir Tuğcu > Çocuk Sağ. ve Hastalıkları Uzm. Dr. Kadir Tuğcu
  Yeni Mesajlar Yeni Mesajlar RSS - Polen, Ari sutu, Propolis ve aldatmacalar
  SSS SSS  Forumu Ara   Kayıt Ol Kayıt Ol  Giriş Giriş

Polen, Ari sutu, Propolis ve aldatmacalar

 Yanıt Yaz Yanıt Yaz Sayfa  12>
Yazar
Mesaj
  Konu Arama Konu Arama  Konu Seçenekleri Konu Seçenekleri
Dr.KadirTugcu Açılır Kutu Gör
Uzman
Uzman


Kayıt Tarihi: 14 Ağu 2008
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 116377
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı Dr.KadirTugcu Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Konu: Polen, Ari sutu, Propolis ve aldatmacalar
    Gönderim Zamanı: 07 Şub 2020 Saat 20:07
Son gunlerde gene, "Polen, Propolis, Ari sutu, Royal jelly" gibi urunler hakkinda sorular gelmeye basladi..
Bu urunlerin hicbir faydalari yoktur ve bilgiler tamamen uydurmadir. Tamami bu urunleri imal edenlerin uydurmalaridir…
Fayda yerine pek cok zararlari olabilmektedir..
Asagidaki yaziyi, bu konunun meraklilari okuyabilir.



Bee pollen has also been claimed to improve athletic and sexual performance; slow the aging process; promote both weight loss and weight gain; prevent infection, allergy, and cancer; and alleviate more than 60 other health problems.
No scientific study supports any claim that bee pollen is effective against any human disease. The few studies that have been done to test its effect on athletic performance have shown no benefit [2-4]. In the mid-1970s, for example, tests conducted on swimmers and cross-country runners found no difference in performance between those who took bee pollen and those who took a placebo [3]. A six-week study of 20 swimmers published in 1982 found no performance difference [4].
Royal jelly, which is secreted from the salivary glands of worker bees, serves as food for all young larvae and as the only food for larvae that will develop into queen bees. Like bee pollen, it has been falsely claimed to be especially nutritious, to provide buoyant energy, and to have therapeutic properties.


In 1992, the CC Pollen Company and its owners (Bruce R. Brown, Carol M. Brown, and Royden Brown) agreed to pay $200,000 to settle charges that they falsely represented that bee-pollen products could produce weight loss, permanently alleviate allergies, reverse the aging process, and cure, prevent, or alleviate impotence or sexual dysfunction. The company and its owners were also charged with falsely stating that bee-pollen products are an effective antibiotic for human use and cannot result in an allergic reaction. Under the agreement, the company and its owners were prohibited from making all of these claims and are required to have scientific evidence to support any other health-related claims about any other product for human consumption. Some of the false claims were made in "infomercials" that were misrepresented as news or documentary programs, even though they were paid ads. During one infomercial, entitled "TV Insiders," host Vince Inneo falsely implied that the program was part of a series of independent investigations. The products offered during the infomercial were Bee-Young, Pollenergy (to "restore missing energy'), Royal Jelly ("to keep sexually active at any age"), President's Lunch, and First Lady's Lunch Bar. The infomercial producer TV, Inc., signed a separate consent agreement.
Although violation of an FTC consent agreement can trigger large penalties, Royden Brown continued to promote bee pollen illegally. In May 1994, S&S Public Relations Inc., of Chicago, issued a letter stating: "It's allergy season, but many sufferers aren't suffering anymore. They're using Aller-Bee-Gone, bee pollen tablets that are credited with relieving the symptoms of allergies, asthma, and other respiratory ailments." The accompanying news release added that Brown's lifetime goal was "to eliminate degenerative disease worldwide through the use of bee pollen. However, a few weeks later, bee pollen's most colorful promoter died following injuries sustained in a fall.

Düzenleyen Dr.KadirTugcu - 07 Şub 2020 Saat 20:10
Yukarı Dön
esra_s Açılır Kutu Gör
Katılımcı Üye
Katılımcı Üye


Kayıt Tarihi: 11 Tem 2018
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 233
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı esra_s Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 09 Şub 2020 Saat 14:04
ben oğluma 2 yaşından beri sabahları 1 tatlı ksaşığı bal veriyorum. biz hep şifa olarak bildik ama arı ürünleri konusunda çok tereddütlüyüm. arı sütünün erken ergenliğe sebep olduğunu okudum ne kadar doğru bilmiyorum tabii. propolis damlaları özellikle suda ve alkolde çözdürülmüş olarak satılıyor ve bağışıklık güçlendirdiği idda ediliyor. kreşe başlayan çocuklarına kullanıp daha az hastalandığını söyleyen anneler var. ama katı olan bu ürün damla formuna sokulana kadar geçirdiği işlemden sonra ne kadar etken madde içinde kalıyor meşhul ve bu maddelerin insan vücuduna etkisi konusunda net bir bilgi yok. ilaçları verirken kar-zarar göz önünde bulunduruluyor ve öyle veriyorlar ama bu tarz takviye gıdalarda sanki zarar yokmuş gibi algılıyoruz.
Yukarı Dön
Dr.KadirTugcu Açılır Kutu Gör
Uzman
Uzman


Kayıt Tarihi: 14 Ağu 2008
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 116377
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı Dr.KadirTugcu Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 10 Şub 2020 Saat 00:37
Propolisin icinde, bir "Etken madde" YOKKI, sulansin….
Sizlere; Propolis diye, balin petegini yutturuyorlar..
Yukardaki yaziyi mutlaka Ingilizce bilen birisine okutun.
Sekeri yasaklarlar ama ayni etkiye sahip olan bali verirler.. Bunlari zirvalayan Prof. larin da ne kadar cahil olduklari buradan bellidir.

Dogru; zarar yok (zarari kesenize), ama faydasi da YOK!

Düzenleyen Siddartha - 12 Şub 2024 Saat 11:36
Yukarı Dön
dythayriusta Açılır Kutu Gör
Üye
Üye
Simge

Kayıt Tarihi: 28 Ağu 2020
Konum: ANKARA
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 1
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı dythayriusta Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 28 Ağu 2020 Saat 20:06
Kadir hocam amerikan tıp dergisi makalelerinde 300 binin üzerinde nakale ve araştırma sonucu var bence siz ingilizce olarak yaklaşık 20 sene vaktinizi ayırın bütün deney ve araştırma sonuçlarını okursanız sizin mezun olduktan sonraki dönemde arı ürünlkeri ile alakalı dünyada ne gibi gelişmeler oldu daha iyi anlamanıza vesile olur ayrıca
karadeniz teknik üniversitesi prof dr orhan değerli
istanbul teknik üniversitesi prof dr dilek boyacı
kayseri erciyes üniversitesi prof dr sibel silici
ankara üniversitesindeki değerli hocalar artık üniversite bünyesinde propolis üretip çoğu onkoloji hastalarına veriliyor ayrıca apiterapi alternatif tedavi grubundan çıkartılıp tamalayıcı tedavi grubuna sağlık bakanlığı tarafından kabul edildi ve şu anda 60 bine yakın doktora apiterapi sertifikaları verildi bu sözleri sizin söylemeniz beni gerçekten çok şaşırttı saygı değer hocam ayrıca çocuklarım 8 ile 20 yaşında  apiterapi ürünleri sayesinde ben 1 defa hasta olduklarını bilmem ayrıca facbookta apiterapi aileleri sayfasında 3 binden fazla kullanıcı var akla mantığa gelmeyen hastalıklardan ilaçsız nasıl kurtulmuşlar okumak gerek araştırmak gerek saygılar
Hayat çok kısa ve öz
Yukarı Dön
Dr.KadirTugcu Açılır Kutu Gör
Uzman
Uzman


Kayıt Tarihi: 14 Ağu 2008
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 116377
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı Dr.KadirTugcu Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 26 Eki 2020 Saat 21:51
Esas okumasi ve arastirmasi gerekenler, Turk Universite mensuplaridir. Oyle; "hoca" dinlemekle Tip egitimi
olmaz... 
Okuyacaksiniz, hem de yabanci lisanda (tercihen Ingilizce) okuyacaksiniz. 
Oyle; islerine gelmediginde:"Bal cok zararlidir, Botilizmus bulastirir." diyeceksiniz, isinize geldiginde; "Bal,
Propolis, V.S. cok faydalidir diyeceksiniz. 

Kaynak:
Europea Commission
Health & Consumer Protection Directorate-General

 " Opinion of The Scientific Committee on Veterinary Measures Relating to Public Health
                                     On
Honey And Microbiological Hazards "

Kitapcigini okuyacaksiniz. Neye yarar, nelere yaramaz, ogreneceksiniz. 
Once BILGI sahibi olacaksiniz, ondan sonra FIKIR yuruteceksiniz. 
Bal yiyerek, hastalik tedavi edeceksiniz ha!!! Allah akil-fikir versin. 
Oyle kuru kuruya, "Hastalara verdik , iyilestiler" diye tibbi arastirma yapilamaz!!
Bu hastalara: Chi-kare testi, Student's t-test, uygulandimi?Veya en basitinden, ayni hastalarin yarisina
Propolis , diger yarisina Plasebo verilip, mukayese yapildimi??? Hayir! 
Sonra da buna ; "Tibbi arastirma" mi diyorsunuz? 





“Bee pollen” is actually pollen from flowers that is collected from bees as they enter the hive or is harvested by other means. Pollen granules stick to the bees’ legs and other body parts as they help themselves to nectar (the precursor of honey) inside the flowers. Pollen products are marketed through health-food stores, multilevel distributors, drugstores, mail-order advertising, and the Internet [A,B,C, D].

Misleading Claims
Promoters call bee pollen “the perfect food” and stress that it contains all of the essential amino acids and many vitamins and minerals [1]. However, none of these nutrients offers any magic, and all are obtained easily and less expensively from conventional foods. The CC Pollen Company of Phoenix, Arizona, has also claimed:

It has been estimated that honeybee pollen contains over 5,000 enzymes and coenzymes, many times more than any other food. . . . Enzymes in the body are not only necessary for perpetual healing and digestion but for life itself. Without enzymes, life is impossible. Also, enzymes protect against premature aging. It has been reliably stated that only honeybee pollen contains all known enzymes in perfect proportion and perfect balance. [1]

The above statement is erroneous. Pollen does not contain all known enzymes, and even if it did, that would not contribute to human health. The enzymes in plants and other species of animals help regulate the metabolic functions of their respective species. When ingested, they do not act as enzymes within the human body, because they are digested rather than absorbed intact into the body.

Bee pollen has also been claimed to improve athletic and sexual performance; slow the aging process; promote both weight loss and weight gain; prevent infection, allergy, and cancer; and alleviate more than 60 other health problems.

No scientific study supports any claim that bee pollen is effective against any human disease. The few studies that have been done to test its effect on athletic performance have shown no benefit [2-4]. In the mid-1970s, for example, tests conducted on swimmers and cross-country runners found no difference in performance between those who took bee pollen and those who took a placebo [3]. A six-week study of 20 swimmers published in 1982 found no performance difference [4].

Royal jelly, which is secreted from the salivary glands of worker bees, serves as food for all young larvae and as the only food for larvae that will develop into queen bees. Like bee pollen, it has been falsely claimed to be especially nutritious, to provide buoyant energy, and to have therapeutic properties.

Bee pollen and royal jelly should be regarded as potentially dangerous because they cause allergic reactions. People allergic to specific pollens have developed asthma, hives, and anaphylactic shock after ingesting pollen or royal jelly [5-12]. Neurologic and gastrointestinal reactions have also been reported [13,14]. Some cases of asthma and anaphylaxis have been fatal. The potential for serious reactions is widespread because at least 5% of Americans are allergic to ragweed pollen, and bee pollen contains pollen from ragweed or plants that cross-react with ragweed, such as dandelions, sunflowers, or chrysanthemums [15,16]. It has been speculated the presence of these allergens might enable regular users to become desensitized (as would happen with allergy shots). However, the odds of this happening are extremely small. Shots deliver the pollen in significant and controllable amounts, whereas bee pollen taken by mouth delivers unpredictable amounts that get digested [17].

Bees are exposed to various bacterial and chemical contaminants that might be incorporated in products for human consumption [18]. Although both bee pollen and royal jelly contain substances with antibiotic properties, both can sustain the growth of disease-causing organisms and neither has practical use as an antibiotic [19]. Contaminants can also be introduced during processing [18]. In 1995, Montana Naturals International, in Arlee, Montana, had to recall several thousand bottles of a bee pollen/royal jelly/propolis mix because of contamination with lead.

Propolis, also called “bee glue,” is a resinous substance bees use to construct and maintain their hives. In laboratory tests, propolis has exhibited a variety of interesting antimicrobial and antitumor properties [20]. However, it has little practical use and can cause contact dermatitis and other allergic reactions [21].

Federal Enforcement Actions
In 1990, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) obtained a consent agreement barring American Life Nutrition and American LifeFarFun, Inc., from making various unsubstantiated claims for its bee pollen and four other products.
In 1992, a federal court ordered destruction of quantities of Bee Alive, a royal jelly and herb combination in honey seized from Bee-Alive Inc., of Valley Cottage, N.Y. In 1989, the FDA had warned the company that promotional material distributed with a similar product had made illegal statements that the product was useful in treating or preventing chronic Epstein-Barr virus syndrome, gastrointestinal ulcers, colitis, low blood pressure, arteriosclerosis, nervous breakdowns, infertility, impotence, depression, rheumatoid arthritis, Alzheimer’s disease, anemia, asthma, hemorrhoids, migraine headaches, and other problems. Despite a promise to stop distributing literature making these claims, the company continued to advertise that Regina Royal Jelly could help children resist childhood ailments, “offers daytime vitality and nighttime tranquility,” increases mental and physical stamina, and “seems to improve the immune system.” Company president Madeline Balletta still promotes Bee-Alive as a “super-food” whose users (including herself) have been relieved from severe fatigue [22,23].
In 1994, the FTC obtained a consent agreement barring Bee-Sweet, Inc., a North Carolina-based firm, from claiming that its products could treat various physical ailments. Its ads had claimed that, “Studies performed by doctors around the world have shown bee pollen to be effective in treating illnesses from allergies to arthritis, anorexia to overweight, fatigue to arteriosclerosis.”
In 1992, the CC Pollen Company and its owners (Bruce R. Brown, Carol M. Brown, and Royden Brown) agreed to pay $200,000 to settle charges that they falsely represented that bee-pollen products could produce weight loss, permanently alleviate allergies, reverse the aging process, and cure, prevent, or alleviate impotence or sexual dysfunction. The company and its owners were also charged with falsely stating that bee-pollen products are an effective antibiotic for human use and cannot result in an allergic reaction. Under the agreement, the company and its owners were prohibited from making all of these claims and are required to have scientific evidence to support any other health-related claims about any other product for human consumption. Some of the false claims were made in “infomercials” that were misrepresented as news or documentary programs, even though they were paid ads. During one infomercial, entitled “TV Insiders,” host Vince Inneo falsely implied that the program was part of a series of independent investigations. The products offered during the infomercial were Bee-Young, Pollenergy (to “restore missing energy’), Royal Jelly (“to keep sexually active at any age”), President’s Lunch, and First Lady’s Lunch Bar. The infomercial producer TV, Inc., signed a separate consent agreement.
Although violation of an FTC consent agreement can trigger large penalties, Royden Brown continued to promote bee pollen illegally. In May 1994, S&S Public Relations Inc., of Chicago, issued a letter stating: “It’s allergy season, but many sufferers aren’t suffering anymore. They’re using Aller-Bee-Gone, bee pollen tablets that are credited with relieving the symptoms of allergies, asthma, and other respiratory ailments.” The accompanying news release added that Brown’s lifetime goal was “to eliminate degenerative disease worldwide through the use of bee pollen. However, a few weeks later, bee pollen’s most colorful promoter died following injuries sustained in a fall.

For Additional Information
Producing pollen (fact sheet from the University of Florida)
References
Is honeybee pollen the world’s only perfect food? (Booklet) Phoenix, AZ: CC Pollen Company, 1984.
Steben RE, Boudroux P. The effects of pollen and pollen extracts on selected blood factors and performance of athletes. Journal of Sports Medicine and Physical Fitness 18:271-278, 1978.
Larkin T. Bee pollen as a health food. FDA Consumer 18(3):21 22, 1984.
Maughan RJ, Evans SP. Effects of pollen extract upon adolescent swimmers. British Journal of Sports Medicine 16:142-145, 1982.
Thien FC and others. Asthma and anaphylaxis induced by royal jelly. Clinical and Experimental Allergy 26:216-222, 1996.
Shaw D and others. Traditional remedies and food supplements. A 5-year toxicological study (1991-1995). Drug Safety 17:342-356, 1997.
Prichard M, Turner KJ. Acute hypersensitivity to ingested processed pollen. Australian and New Zealand Journal of Medicine 15:346-347, 1985.
Yonei Y and others. Case report: Haemorrhagic colitis associated with royal jelly intake. Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology 12:495-499, 1997.
Geyman JP. Anaphylactic reaction after ingestion of bee pollen. Journal of the American Board of Family Practice 7:250-252, 1994.
Mansfield LE, Goldstein GB. Anaphylactic reaction after ingestion of local bee pollen. Annals of Allergy 47:154-156, 1981.
Lombardi C and others. Allergic reactions to honey and royal jelly and their relationship with sensitization to compositae. Allergologia et Immunopathologia 26:288-290, 1998.
Leung R and others. Royal jelly consumption and hypersensitivity in the community. Clinical and Experimental Allergy 27:333-336, 1997.
Lin FL and others. Hypereosinophilia, neurologic, and gastrointestinal symptoms after bee pollen ingestion. Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology 83:793-796, 1989.
Puente S and others. Eosinophilic gastroenteritis caused by bee pollen sensitization. Medicina Clinica 108:698-700, 1997.
Mirkin G. Can bee pollen benefit health? JAMA 262:1854, 1989.
Helbling A and others. Allergy to honey: Relation to pollen and honey bee allergy. Allergy 47:41-49, 1992.
Wandycz K. Allergies: Runny nose? Itchy throat? Bee pollen helps some allergy victims, but for most people it’s a waste of money. Forbes, April 25, 1995, p 414.
Fleche C and others. Contamination of bee products and risk for human health: Situation in France. Revue Scientifique et Technique 16:609-19, 1997.
Sanford MT. Pollen marketing. Fact Sheet ENY-118. Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida. Feb 1995.
Burdock GA. Review of the biological properties and toxicity of bee propolis. Food and Chemical Toxicology 36:347-363, 1998.
Hausen BM and others. Propolis allergy (I): Origin, properties, usage and literature review. Contact Dermatitis 17:163-170, 1987.
Ben Kinchlow and Madeline Balletta have a secret they want to share with you. They both have major responsibilities and hectic schedules. They both travel extensively. They have a secret . . . a God-given food that has already helped hundreds of thousands of Christians. Advertisement in Human Events, Aug 20, 1999, p 15.
Bee-Alive Web site, Accessed Aug 22, 1999.
Yukarı Dön
Dr.KadirTugcu Açılır Kutu Gör
Uzman
Uzman


Kayıt Tarihi: 14 Ağu 2008
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 116377
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı Dr.KadirTugcu Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 12 Eki 2022 Saat 18:50
12 Ekim 2022 Sözcü gazetesinden alınma bir haber:

DEŞİFRE EDİLDİ
Bu duruma örnek olarak, Fransız gazetesi LeMonde, görünüşte hiçbir yerden referans almayan  bir çalışma ortaya çıkardı. LeMonde tarafından deşifre edilen bir vakada, Integratif Onkoloji Dergisi’nde yer alan bir makalede, klinik çalışmayla, arı kovanlarının birlikte yapışık kalmasını sağlamak için arıların salgıladığı propolis ekstresinin kolorektal kanserin tedavisinde kemoterapiden daha etkili olduğu anlatılan çalışmanın, sahte ve yazarları olmayan bir araştırma merkeziyle bağlantılı olduğu ortaya çıktı.

Çok merak ediyorum, Ankara Üniversitesinin "değerli hocaları" hala hastalara Propolis veriyorlar mı? 

Yukarı Dön
Frozen Açılır Kutu Gör
Katılımcı Üye
Katılımcı Üye


Kayıt Tarihi: 16 Nis 2021
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 168
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı Frozen Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 31 Eki 2022 Saat 23:47
Hocam iyi ki varsınız. İnsanlara laf anlatmak cok zor. Biz iyi ki sizi tanıdık. Minnettarım 🙏
Yukarı Dön
doktorsunnet Açılır Kutu Gör
Üye
Üye
Simge

Kayıt Tarihi: 19 Kas 2023
Konum: akhisar
Durum: Aktif Değil
Puanlar: 1
Mesaj Seçenekleri Mesaj Seçenekleri   Teşekkürler (0) Teşekkürler(0)   Alıntı doktorsunnet Alıntı  Yanıt YazCevapla Mesajın Direkt Linki Gönderim Zamanı: 19 Kas 2023 Saat 16:58
arının en güzel ürettiği anti oksidan propolis arı sütü bence en faydalısı, ama aldatmaca birşey yapılıyorsa gerçektende çok kötü bir durum :(
Yukarı Dön
 Yanıt Yaz Yanıt Yaz Sayfa  12>
  Konu Paylaş   

Forum Atla Forum İzinleri Açılır Kutu Gör

  | İletişim | Reklam | Gizlilik İlkeleri Copyright 2007-2024 ® NETATÖLYE - Tüm hakları saklıdır. İzinsiz alıntı yapılamaz.